15th Anniversary of RPAY: Barbara Delaney

After exploring a number of large benefits firms that they thought could be potential purchasers, last September, the former PLANSPONSOR Retirement Plan Adviser Team of the Year closed on a deal with HUB International.


After Financial Futures of America (FFoA) won the PLANSPONSOR Retirement Plan Adviser Team of the Year award in 2008, the advisory practice began changing its focus due to the financial crisis that occurred in the fall of that year, says Barbara Delaney, a principal with the practice in Pearl River, New York.

Having identified challenges within the retirement planning industry, the team saw an opportunity to reshape the marketplace by focusing on small to mid-size company’s retirement plan needs. After winning the PLANSPONSOR award in 2008, Delaney and her team formed StoneStreet Advisor Group (SSAG) to mark the practice’s shift in focus to a holistic and innovative business model.

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“Up until the financial crisis, we were focused on fiduciary oversight, fees and the investment menu,” Delaney says. “We then shifted to include financial wellness programs. Four years ago, we began consulting on health savings accounts [HSAs] in order to round out our practice. We realized we really needed to offer broader employee benefits beyond just the retirement plan.”

More recently, after exploring a number of large benefits firms that StoneStreet thought could be potential purchasers, last September, the firm closed on a deal with HUB International, an insurance broker and benefits provider. The firm has since maintained its independent branding, though there is a lot of collaboration and support behind the scenes coming from HUB.

In addition to this major development, in the past 18 months, StoneStreet has begun consulting with participants on drawdown strategies, Delaney says. The goal is to help people generate guaranteed income for life.

“We are constantly changing what we are doing to offer a more complete outlook on health and financial well-being,” she adds.

StoneStreet, which had only three employees in 2008 and has since grown to 12, doesn’t specialize in particular industries in terms of the clients it serves. Besides helping sponsors with 401(k) plans, which make up the majority of StoneStreet’s clients, it also handles defined benefit (DB) pensions and nonqualified plans.

Two years ago, StoneStreet launched a wealth management division. While this division works with retirement plan participants and retirees, it does not allow them to roll their money out of their 401(k) plan or other retirement account, as these have more advantageous institutional pricing, Delaney says.

“Besides an increase in fees, it would be a conflict of interest,” she says. What StoneStreet does hope to help these people with is an overall assessment of their financial health, including Social Security strategies and tax planning.

Another big change relative to 2008, Delaney says, is that the practice now works with only six recordkeepers, down from 12 years ago. She says this is a reflection of the significant consolidation that has occurred in that part of the industry.

Delaney says that, in the past dozen years, the industry’s focus has shifted and is now “definitely more on outcomes.”

“All of our plans use automatic enrollment with target-date funds [TDFs] as the default,” she says. “Plan sponsors are more accustomed with using 6% as the default deferral rate, with automatic escalation up to 10%, and even as high as 15%.”

Delaney says she is very optimistic about the continued success of the retirement plan industry.

“No matter how much we automate and use robo-advice, participants need our help to understand their complete financial picture,” she says.

Delaney and her team also make it a point to help participants prepare for a successful lifestyle in retirement.

“We coach them to think about what they are going to do with themselves in retirement to keep mentally and physically active,” she says. “If they wait until retirement to think about this, they become paralyzed and it is too late. We ask them to think about five things they would like to accomplish, like volunteering or gardening, because, on average, only two pan out.”

Delaney says she believes that the onset of the coronavirus pandemic has prompted more plan sponsors and participants to think about holistic financial wellness, as it revealed that many people didn’t have emergency savings.

“COVID has made it painfully obvious that we need to change the way we look at retirement planning to be more holistic,” she says. “In fact, during this time, we have decided we should not be calling it a retirement plan but a ‘universal savings plan,’ so that we can address the many financial goals people are trying to achieve at various milestones of their lives.”

Delaney says she also strongly believes that retirement plan advisers should tailor their messaging to different demographics and industries. For instance, for those making less than $60,000, Social Security will likely replace a large percentage of their income in retirement.

“So many participants at manufacturing plants, for instance, are never told that,” she says. “The message, of course, would be different for those at a law firm or other professional services firm.”

Delaney says she feels this is one positive outcome of the pandemic; it has given the advisers at StoneStreet a reason and a moment to rethink the way they will approach clients, as noted in the examples above.

“We want to improve the experience for every participant in a more meaningful way,” she says. “COVID changed everything, and it is going to continue to change everything. We are holding webinars to help plan sponsors understand how asset allocation will change, for instance. We think active management will be more important in the next 10 years.”

Giving Back: Lessons in Mentorship from Soraya Morris

Soraya Morris is a lead trainer at Envestnet | MoneyGuide. She formerly worked for a fee-only registered investment adviser and says mentorship is a huge part of her past and future in this industry.

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Soraya Morris, a lead trainer at Envestnet | MoneyGuide, based in Richmond, Virginia, became interested in a career in financial services earlier than most people. She says this was a result of her environment growing up and thanks to some well-timed guidance from her grandfather.

“I was interested in the pathway of studying finance and trying to become an investment banker or an adviser from pretty early on, in large part because I was attracted to the opportunity,” Morris says. “I come from a low-income community and area, where a lot of people around me growing up lived paycheck to paycheck. This created my interest in finance, which was then encouraged by my grandfather. He used to go over stocks and bonds in the newspaper with me and explain how they worked—how the markets moved.”

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Morris followed her vision and chose to study finance at Virginia Commonwealth University, or VCU, as it is known in the region. While she was in college, she had the chance to intern first with a small fee-only firm. She later secured employment at a much larger fee-only advisory firm that was more focused on high-net-worth clients.

“At the larger firm, they actually assigned you an adviser who would be your formal mentor, and you are basically acting as an associate,” Morris says. “I got to work with another woman adviser and learn from her, which I really appreciated. She had a family and a full work life, and I could see myself in her shoes in the future. I loved that experience.”

Morris says her early connection to the Financial Planning Association (FPA) was also hugely beneficial, as her program director there also acted as a caring and skilled mentor.

In her current role at Envestnet | MoneyGuide, which she has held for about five years, Morris is able to put this mentorship experience directly to work, given that her job is to train and coach advisers about how to use the firm’s practice management technology to the fullest. The work is rewarding and interesting, she says, made more so by the fact that she is a Black woman in a field that lacks in both racial and gender diversity. She also appreciates that Envestnet | MoneyGuide has a progressive and diverse culture.

“It’s been really interesting work after first being an adviser myself,” Morris says. “The vast majority of my experience as a trainer has been positive, and that is because, a lot of time, the people who show up for training are already open-minded to the idea of learning something new and of embracing technology. But, sometimes, yes, people are forced to be there, and I think the way to break through to these people is to draw on my experience working directly with the clients. Advisers will listen to other people who have been there—who know what it is like working with clients. I don’t come at them from an academic perspective. We can relate directly. Even though I am a young Black woman, we can connect based on shared experience.”

Knowing how important mentorship was in her entrance to the industry—and especially the mentorship she received from a successful woman in the field—Morris has been highly active in working with racially and culturally diverse students at VCU. She tends to work with anywhere from one to a small handful of students during a given semester. 

“They have a mentoring program where you can be very specific about the student you want to be matched up with,” Morris says. “For me, I have chosen to work with students who are already interested in finance, who are students of color or are otherwise coming from a minority group. I do this because I feel like we have a unique set of experiences and challenges in the industry as people of color. I wanted to let them know they are not alone. I am someone they can talk to when it comes to finding jobs and learning how to be yourself in a corporate environment that is not diverse.”

Speaking to advisers who may not have done any mentoring before, Morris says it can be a flexible experience.

“My tip is that, if this feels important to you, than you should make the commitment to set aside the time and do it,” she says. “Honestly, it doesn’t even have to be a big time commitment. You can let the students guide how much they want to communicate and work with you—because they are busy too, keep in mind. Setting the expectations at the beginning is a good practice. You don’t have to talk every week even, you can check in a few times a month. Let them guide the conversations and meet the needs as they come up. Also, you have to accept that sometimes stuff happens. I’ve had dinner meetings planned and have taken time to drive all the way across town to meet with a mentee, and then the student has forgotten they agreed to meet. These are opportunities for you to make a teachable moment while the stakes are still pretty low. Making challenges teachable is the core of being a mentor.”

For the most part, Morris says, her mentees have few illusions about what it will be like entering the financial services business as a young person of color.

“I would say most of them recognize the issues long before I ever meet with them,” Morris says. “These students are often already in the minority in their finance and economics and accounting classrooms. Even at a diverse school like VCU, that is true. To this day, every room I’m in while I am at work, I tend to be the youngest, and also the only Black person and the only woman in the room.”

Morris wants her mentees to learn as early as possible how to have confidence and to be themselves in such situations—and it’s not easy.

“I try to help them to see that there is a reason they are in that room, they deserve and want to be there,” she concludes. “Even if they feel alone in that space, they aren’t alone. They are supported by people outside, but also the people in that space who believe in them. For advisers who are not Black or from diverse backgrounds, being an ally and advocate is very important.”

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