What Advisers’ Need to Know to Discuss Medicare

Discussing a participant’s particular needs well ahead of their 65th birthday is key.

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For Steve Vernon, president of Rest-of-Life Communications, the best approach advisers can follow in helping clients think more strategically about their Medicare options starts with initiating a realistic conversation about how their health care needs might change as they age.

“You’ve got to bring the clients’ attention to the importance of these decisions and motivate them to spend time with it,” Vernon said.

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Vernon, based in Oxnard, Calif. and one of the authors of the report, “Disconnected: Perception vs. Reality in Retirement Planning,” published this month by Stanford Center on Longevity, sees many retirees struggling to develop a plan that best matches their circumstances. Vernon, who also wrote the book Retirement Gamechangers: Strategies for a Healthy, Financially Secure, and Fulfilling Long Life recommends a three-phase framework to help overcome any hurdles.

Advisers are well-positioned to assist, he said, by first engaging and educating clients about the advantages of finding their ideal Medicare plan. The next phase involves developing a step-by-step guide to evaluate the options. And the final task Vernon identified is to “enable” individuals, as he put it, by helping them implement the decisions by removing any barriers or misconceptions. Frequently, advisers focus on just guiding their clients through phase two, overlooking the importance of the first and third steps, he said.

Sometimes roadblocks are just psychological but could nonetheless prevent someone from acting even when they are motivated and engaged, Vernon said.

“All too often the client has some barrier in their mind like, ‘Oh that will never work for me,’ or ‘My brother told me HSAs are no good,’” Vernon said.

Another challenge many people face is in confronting the reality that there is not one solution that works well for everyone, according to Kevin Smith, a CFP and senior vice president with Wealthspire Advisors.

“It’s going to be very, very client-specific depending on what their healthcare situation looks like and what prescriptions they’re currently taking and what providers they use,” Smith said, urging the need for careful and personalized analysis.

Prudent planning begins with preparing ahead of age 65 given the complexities and intricacies to sort through. Seniors first become eligible when they turn 65 and if they are already collecting social security, are automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A and B beginning on the first day of the month they turn 65.

If they are not automatically enrolled, there is an Initial Enrollment Period which begins on the first day of the month three months prior to their 65th birthday and ends on the last day of the month three months after the 65th birthday. If an individual does not enroll in Medicare when they first become eligible during the Initial Enrollment Period, they may be required to pay a penalty unless they qualify for an exception. For example, if you have to pay for Part A, you will pay an additional 10% of your premium each month for twice the number of full years you were eligible for Part A but went without coverage. For Part B, for each 12-month period that you are eligible but go without coverage, your premiums will increase by 10%. And that penalty is permanent for as long as you have Part B coverage. (There are also penalties for Part D.)

“That compounds itself over time,” Smith said, who recommends advisers start discussing this with their clients well ahead of that 65th birthday by collecting granular information about their clients’ particular needs. For advisers, he urges some self-reflection as well. For if they lack the Medicare expertise to analyze the best outcomes, they should consider partnering with a Medicare specialist, he said.

Smith views traditional Medicare as a jigsaw puzzle where you have Part A, which you would typically supplement with a Medigap plan and add a Part D plan which would cover prescription drugs. The other option is the Medicare Advantage Plan, (known formerly as Part C), which is more of an umbrella plan that would incorporate all the health care needs structured like a PPO or HMO with a network of participating health providers typically covering everything from health care to drugs, dental and vision needs.

“This is where it’s really critical to be working with the client and for the client to have very detailed lists of what providers are they currently using and what prescriptions are they currently taking and what pharmacies do they use,” Smith said. “Just changing one or two of those things or if one or two of those things aren’t covered by specific plans you can really end up having much higher out-of-pocket costs.”

In addition, it’s important to review this decision annually to ensure whatever choice the individual first made still suits their current needs, he said.

“It’s crucial not to think of this as just to set it and forget it type of thing,” Smith said. “It’s something you want to keep your eye on and keep reviewing on an annual basis because things will change.”

Vernon also encourages emphasizing the differences between Medicare and employer-based health care plans. In his experience, many people think they understand about Medicare, but when they start looking into it, they discover serious misconceptions. Those might include assuming that Medicare resembles their employer’s health care plan but later are surprised to learn that vision and dental aren’t covered or the cost of hearing aids, as well as some chiropractic and acupuncture care. Medicare also has deductibles and copayments that are typically larger than employer-sponsored plans. Or more fundamentally, some assume Medicare is free, he said. Others don’t adequately weigh the flexibility that traditional Medicare offers in that it provides the freedom to go to any doctor that accepts Medicare reimbursement.

“The advantages of traditional Medicare plus Medicare supplements is that you can choose your own providers, but the disadvantage is it just requires more sophistication on the part of the individual because they’ve got to self-refer,” Vernon said.

Another potential pitfall Vernon warns about are unexpected complications that can occur when people switch between the two options. Medicare Advantage can be simpler in that you’re working within a network, he said. And under Medicare Advantage individuals can move from one provider to another during open enrollment, which offers a lot of flexibility. In addition, if their circumstances change, they can also switch between traditional Medicare and Medicare Advantage. But there can be some instances where someone can get locked out of Medicare supplement plans, Vernon said.

“What people don’t realize is that Medicare supplement plans in some states can have exclusions for pre-existing conditions,” Vernon said, which can be confusing since many people don’t realize the Affordable Care Act did away the pre-existing exclusions, except in the case of Medicare supplement plans.

“The only time you can buy a Medicare supplement plan without worrying about a preexisting condition is when you’re first eligible,” Vernon said. “I call it a trap for the unwary.”

After this assessment and annual review of which type of Medicare option to select, the decision of how to pay for health care becomes a strategic one. While Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) can be used to pay for all eligible medical expenses – including premiums and copays – and could help with monthly expenses, ideally they should be set aside and earmarked for longer-term health care needs.

“When you’re young and you’re contributing to an has, we recommend whenever possible to pay for out-of-pocket expenses outside of the HSA because that leaves more funds inside of the HSA to grow over time,” Smith said.

Vernon sees HSAs as the best savings device for retirement, after matched 401k contributions are met, given they provide federal income tax breaks on contributions along with the ability for earnings to grow tax-free and offer tax-free distributions as long as those distributions are used for qualified expenses.

“If you’re advising a client pre-65 and they haven’t maxed out the HSA the adviser should be screaming at them because it’s tax avoidance, not tax deferral,” Vernon said.

He also encourages advisers to help their clients reserve the HSA balances for long-term care. “Too often people transition in retirement saying, ‘That’s so far away, I’ll just figure it out when it happens,’ and that’s a bad move,” Vernon said. “People don’t think long-term and advisers can really help focus their clients by saying, ‘Did any of your parents or closer family friends need long-term care? What was the heartache and the disruption that caused them?’ Now [that] we’ve got your attention, let’s talk about strategies.”

Even for individuals in their 60s, HSAs can still be regarded as a long-term investment. But should those assets not be sufficient, the other option for paying for long-term care many people have is home equity that can be tapped as a last resort either by selling property or taking out a reverse mortgage, Vernon said. Another possible tool is to purchase a qualified longevity annuity contract (QLAC), he advised. And with younger individuals, advisers would do well to help their clients look ahead and consider simplifying, downsizing, or moving to a more convenient location.

“Don’t wait until it’s too late,” Vernon said. “You can see why these problems get kind of big and hairy and why I like engaging with them sooner rather than later.”

Annuities’ Bad Rap

Research shows a link between a good comprehension of annuities and a more favorable view of the products; unfortunately, annuity know-how remains low among individual investors.

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When Alison Salka considers questions about annuities for the polls LIMRA fields in her role as senior vice president and director of LIMRA Research, she anticipates some negative feedback.

“It’s been broadly acknowledged that annuities can be a loaded term,” she says.

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Retirement plan participants’ tendency to dislike annuities is well-documented. Yet at a time when workers approaching retirement appreciate the value of creating stable income to replace their paycheck, some see a paradoxical desire for the role annuities can play in a portfolio in general, even if some investors voice a disinterest in annuities in particular.

Salka, based in Windsor, Connecticut, ascribes some of these attitudes to more than just the psychology associated with the term “annuity.” The surveys LIMRA has conducted show a pattern linking a good comprehension of annuities with a more favorable view, she says. In one example, 40% of people who are knowledgeable about annuities said they would want to convert retirement assets into guaranteed lifetime income. This falls to 15% among those who are not knowledgeable, according to Salka. But those with an understanding of annuities tend to be a minority of investors. One study found just one in four consumers were able to correctly answer seven of 10 questions about annuities.

“Clearly consumers don’t know a lot about annuities. That matters, because we found that positive perceptions of annuities are associated with higher levels of knowledge,” Salka says. “So, as you understand more about annuities, you view them more positively and your interest in converting assets into guaranteed lifetime income goes up.”

Greg Adams, a consultant at Fiducient Advisors, also based in Windsor, blames some of the negative sentiment about annuities on those that had high costs or fees that were not well-understood.

“There was a point at which annuities were getting a bad rap, and I think it had a lot to do with some of the sales practices that were out there,” he says.

But annuities can serve a useful role for many investors, Adams says.

“The way I have looked at annuities is kind of like medication,” he explains. “The right medication for the right person is going to do wonders for them, whereas the wrong medication for the wrong person is going to be catastrophic.”

Finding a suitable annuity may require more research, either from an adviser or someone else acting in a fiduciary capacity. Trusted experts can help match investors with an annuity that best meets their needs, Adams says.

Problems with annuities arise when there are surprises or misunderstandings in the purchase process.

“You buy an annuity because of the protection, the safety and the guarantees,” Adams says. “You like the idea until you find out your all-in fees are over 2% a year, as opposed to an index fund where you could be paying a few basis points a year. When individuals are surprised by pricing or product features after the fact, it can seem like an annuity is a bad product, but there could actually be a ton of value that the individual was receiving.”

The Setting Every Community Up for Retirement Enhancement—aka SECURE—Act is also likely to usher in new annuity options in the defined contribution space, Adams says. Already, Adams is helping plan sponsors establish a prudent process for selecting income products and making sure that process is in accordance with the governing bodies and regulations.

“There’s still a lot of work that needs to be done before we’re going to see it in all of the qualified plans,” he says.

The biggest challenge is grasping what the regulatory bodies will look for to grant a safe harbor to plan sponsors, Adams says. Some of the questions Adams is helping to pose include: How do plan sponsors benchmark and compare? How do they potentially educate, or not educate, participants? What do they need to understand about the underlying organization that’s providing the product? And are they now going to evaluate insurance companies?

Part of the solution may lie in developing more descriptive language. Adams already sees greater use of the word “income” or “income-oriented” or “managed payout” funds, wherein some providers offer balanced funds that include a 5% allocation that will generate income for the participant.

“Most people can say, ‘Hey, I need x amount of income per month to pay my bills,’” Adams says. “So, if they can start saving and investing, contributing their money, contributing the employer match to something that’s guaranteeing them income in retirement, I think that’s a little bit more of an intuitive way for participants to save and invest.”

Salka’s research also shows further division among investor goals. Some individuals are very interested in guaranteed income, and some would rather roll the dice on the markets, she explains.

“We find that people are very interested in turning assets into guaranteed income, because it makes them feel more comfortable if they have that guarantee,” she says. “For those who say they don’t like them or don’t want them, those people tend to say it’s because they are going to lose control of the assets.”

In surveys probing interest in whether employers should offer a product with guaranteed income, Salka found that the majority of people wanted that as an option. When asked about the option to build guaranteed lifetime income by investing all or part of their contributions in an investment option with an additional cost as part of their retirement savings plan offered by their employer, 17% of participants said they were likely to use it, while 40% said they were somewhat likely and 21% said they weren’t.

Salka sees further differentiation among people’s attitudes between the ages of 50 and 75. In a survey, individuals were asked to identify their ideal retirement income features. They selected which of five of 10 features, ranging from “income is guaranteed for life” to “heirs or charities will receive money when I die,” were most important to them. Then they were asked to allocate 100 percentage points across five features with more points indicating greater significance. When analyzed together with a series of other questions, it revealed that people tend to fall into one of three categories of investor: guarantee-seekers, estate-builders and asset-protectors, Salka notes.

“Historically, plan sponsors and plan advisers have said, ‘Oh I’m worried about my fiduciary duty, my participants aren’t interested, these are complicated,’” Salka says. “But the SECURE Act is making it easier, and I think it will be interesting to see if you get more adoption that way—that’s the first step. And the second step is to just help people understand the value of guarantees.”

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