Lori Lucas Will Retire as Head of EBRI

The CEO of nearly five years will turn to fiction writing in 2023, leaving a remarkable legacy at EBRI.

Lori Lucas


Lori Lucas, the CEO of the Employee Benefit Retirement Institute, plans to retire at the end of the year after almost five years at EBRI, leaving a legacy of increased accessibility and focus on diversity.

Prior to joining EBRI, Lucas had been the executive vice-president for defined contribution practice at Callan Associates, director of research at Aon Hewitt and an analyst at Morningstar.

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When she took over in 2018, she explained to PLANADVISER that she wanted to increase the accessibility of the research that EBRI produced. She says EBRI’s work is far more accessible now and cites as examples the various formats in which EBRI publishes its data, such as webinars and interactive infographics.

Lucas explains that prior to being CEO at EBRI, she was a consumer of their research. She knew many members wanted EBRI’s key findings and summaries of research to present to industry executives because, “Not everyone wants to read an entire issue brief.” This insight motivated the increased accessibility of ERBI’s research for its members.

In April 2023, EBRI will release its retirement security projection model, according to Lucas, using 401(k) and IRA data to project likely retirement outcomes for different cohorts of the population. The model can also be tweaked to account for the different retirement provisions in the SECURE 2.0 legislation. Lucas says there is currently a $3.6 trillion deficit from what American workers aged 35 to 65 should have saved for retirement, and this model will measure how each provision could reduce that deficit.

Also due in the spring is the EBRI Retirement Confidence Survey. 2023’s survey will focus on the retirement confidence of caregivers, says Lucas. Caregivers, such as stay-at-home parents, work full-time and socially valuable jobs but are unpaid and do not enjoy the benefits of accessing an employer-sponsored retirement plan in their own names. As a result, they are especially vulnerable in retirement if they divorce or if their partner dies.

EBRI’s research shows that unmarried women, especially divorced women, have retirement savings balances that are often significantly lower than married women and men, Lucas says.

In her time at EBRI, Lucas says that perhaps the biggest change in the industry is the new focus on overall financial wellness of employees: “Retirement is no longer the sole focus of employers.” Future financial wellness must be paired with current financial stability, and employers are seeing that more and more. She specifically cites student loan assistance and emergency savings as items that both address short-term financial security and make long-term saving more feasible, both of which are also items addressed in the pending SECURE 2.0 legislative package.

Lucas is especially proud of the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Council started at EBRI last year and EBRI’s related research on the financial wellness of women and minorities. One point she highlights is the importance of plan sponsors using different messaging with different demographic groups. She says the messenger’s background can affect how a message is received by different demographic groups and that multiple-choice questions given on surveys should account for different cultural perspectives so that the questions resonate and yield accurate responses.

As an example, Lucas explains that providing “prioritizing family over self” as an option when asking about barriers to retirement savings was particularly resonant with black and Hispanic respondents in EBRI’s data.

Lucas will now turn to writing, a longtime passion. She says she wants to write fiction and feels very fortunate she was able to save enough that she can turn from one passion, retirement research, to another, writing, in a financially sustainable way.

She calls her retirement an example of “leaving on a high note.”

RetireOne Adds Nationwide RIA Annuities As Advisers Consider Options

Insurance outsourcing firm RetireOne partners with Nationwide on annuities for investment advisers. But recent research brings into question just how much advisers want to talk annuities with clients.

Insurance outsourcer RetireOne said Thursday it has partnered with Nationwide to offer four annuities to its network of registered investment advisers.

The San Francisco-based insurance solutions provider said the addition of Nationwide annuities is in part to meet a growing demand from advisers—and their clients—for stability amid volatile markets.

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“Americans deserve peace of mind in retirement without worry that they will run out of money or that they may need to return to the workforce,” Jeff Cusack, chief distribution officer at RetireOne, said in a press release.

Mark Forman, chief marketing officer for RetireOne, says each annuity provider has different strengths, but that in the case of some firms, like Nationwide, brand matters for advisers. He also says RetireOne has seen a significant uptick in interest in annuities that RIAs can manage for their clients, and that they’ll be looking to add even more providers to their already-wide pool next year.

“What we’re seeing is that after 10 years of an extraordinary bull market, when markets get volatile, inflation hits record marks that we haven’t seen in years, and we have a rising interest rate environment that has made bonds weak—RIAs are looking at fixed income options and fixed annuities,” Forman says.

This is particularly true for clients that are near-retirees or in retirement that have seen costs rise while their assets drop, the marketing chief notes. This has likely created some uncomfortable conversations for RIAs, Forman says, as they may now be suggesting lower retirement savings withdrawals for this cohort.

“They are double-dipping in a way,” Forman says. “Taking income on the one hand and seeing a double-digit drop in their assets on the other.”

The idea of protection with solid returns is what is making fixed-income annuities as well as Registered Index-Linked Annuities popular, Forman says. Data from insurance association LIMRA backs up the statement, with retail annuity sales breaking records this year.

There are also strong signs of demand for retirement income options in defined contribution plans, as well as a ramping-up of educational offerings for advisers related to in-plan annuity options. Recent Invesco research shows that 94% of participants in a workplace retirement plan would like a lifetime-income option.

Forman says while RetireOne does not yet offer an in-plan annuity for RIAs, it is something they are exploring for the future.

Ready, But Are They Willing?

Research and consulting firm Cogent Syndicated put out a report on Thursday agreeing with the idea that the current economic situation has affluent investors in particular interested in safe, guaranteed income options for retirement.

“From multiple perspectives, the climate is ripe for annuity providers to shine,” Linda York, head of Cogent’s wealth management syndicated research and consulting practice, wrote in the report.

However, the firm’s other overriding finding was that the majority of advisers are still skeptical of offering annuities to clients. Cogent found that two-thirds of advisers are “highly confident” in generating income streams for their clients in retirement through mutual funds, exchange-traded funds, and other similar investment products. Meanwhile, one-fifth (19%) of advisers had the need for a guaranteed income solution.

“When it comes to guaranteed retirement income, advisers are the primary obstacle between affluent investors and products that are specifically designed for that purpose,” York wrote. “A majority of advisers do not see the need for or benefit of guaranteed income products for their clients’ portfolios.”

On the investor side, inflation is causing concern for people about outliving their retirement savings, according to Cogent, which is a division of market researching firm Escalant. Meanwhile, fewer investors show distrust of insurance companies or even concern about potentially lower growth from annuities, the firm found. What investors do continue to worry about is giving up control of principal in exchange for income down the road.

“Annuity providers need to address the barriers to purchase head-on with a clear understanding of not only their competitive standing versus other insurance carriers, but also the expanding landscape of substitute investment products that are competing for potential assets,” York wrote.

Call it ‘Protection’

Forman of RetireOne points to its research showing that RIAs are much more interested in retirement income after the volatility of this year. His firm’s data showed that in 2021, 26% of RIAs were on the fence about offering annuities, a figure that dropped to 14% in 2022.

RetireOne will be distributing three of Nationwide’s advisory annuity solutions and the Nationwide Advisory Variable Universal Life product through its wholly owned broker-dealer, EF Legacy, the firm said. The advisory solution additions include:

  1. Monument Advisor Investment-Only Variable Annuity: A flat-fee, $20-a month investment-only variable annuity with more than 350 investment options.
  2. Nationwide Advisory Retirement Income Annuity: A fee-based variable annuity designed for tax-deferred accumulation and retirement income growth potential.
  3. Nationwide Advisory Income: The single premium immediate annuity that provides a guaranteed retirement income stream, while also offering inflation protection through an optional cost of living adjustment and an optional liquidity feature that allows for a lump sum withdrawal in case of emergency. 
  4. Nationwide Advisory Variable Universal Life: A fee-based variable universal life offering, designed with RIAs in mind, that features affordable and customizable life insurance protection, no surrender charges, no sales loads, and Long-term Care Rider II—an option to use money earmarked for inheritors for long-term healthcare needs instead, according to Nationwide’s website.

Forman says the products show some of the innovation in the annuity space that have been around for a few years, but are now getting more interest.

“I think that we’ll see more of the momentum from 2022 going into 2023,” Forman says. “When [annuities] are advertised as protection they do really well.”

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