2023 RPAY – Rehmann Financial


Business at a Glance as of 12/31/22

  • Plan assets under advisement: $946 million
  • Median plan size (in assets): $1.3 million
  • Plans under administration: 296
  • Total participants served: 16,500

PLANADVISER: Tell us about your practice and how you got into advising retirement plans

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Gerald Wernette: Rehmann is a fully integrated financial services and business advisory firm that provides accounting and assurance, business solutions and outsourcing, specialized consulting and wealth management services. Rehmann was founded in 1941 and has more than 80 years of experience in providing forward-thinking solutions to our clients. With more than 950 associates in Michigan, Ohio and Florida, we are the momentum behind what’s possible. We focus on the business of business—allowing companies and individuals to focus on what makes them extraordinary. We help our clients and associates look to the future with confidence thanks to our unrivaled expertise and integrity. Through our partnerships with our clients and the communities we serve, we drive impact that empowers our world.

Rehmann’s entrance into advising on retirement plans stemmed from our commitment to being obsessed with our clients’ success, which is one of our five core values. I began my career as a CPA practicing in the arena of tax. Our retirement plan practice began in 1985, when we recognized our clients’ needs for more dedicated and sophisticated retirement plan consulting and administration services. This led to our development of a TPA practice for which I, in turn, oversaw and grew for the firm. By 2000, through our conversations with business owners and plan sponsors, we realized we had the expertise and capability to provide additional solutions to them, which opened the door for investment advisory services. Since then, we’ve developed a team dedicated to the delivery of retirement plan solutions, which has allowed us to grow our practice to where it is today


PLANADVISER: How is your team/process/structure unique? How has it evolved? Where will you be in five years?

Wernette: There are many different facets of advising on retirement plans, including investments, plan design, plan compliance, participant education, plan sponsor education and more. Rehmann’s uniqueness is our expertise within each component. We have specialists in employee education, plan transitions, third party administration and plan design, investment research, benefit plan audits, ERISA compliance, and participant engagement. We build a custom, cross-functional team of experts for each plan sponsor to deliver an exceptional experience. This allows us to leverage our expertise across a larger number of plans and to deliver a consistent experience regardless of the plan size. While many advisory teams don’t work with start-ups, we do, along with plans with $100+ million in assets.

In the next five years, Rehmann has a very ambitious goal to double the number of plans we serve. We are working on building out our team to allow for this growth without sacrificing our current client service standards. This is why we focus so much on mentorship and why we are thrilled to be recognized for our efforts.


PLANADVISER: As a retirement plan adviser, what do you take the most pride in?

Wernette: I take tremendous pride in what our team has been able to accomplish for our clients and the growth our associates have experienced in doing so. For me, it is not about the number of plans, amount of assets or number of participants; rather, it is more about the impact we have on our clients’ futures and helping them attain their goals. I take great pride in the impact I’ve been able to have on clients and associates alike. I’ve been told that I’ve changed associates’ roles for the better, helped clients to reach their goals and ultimately helped both clients and associates live a life closer to the one they’ve dreamed of.


PLANADVISER: How do you grow your business? What changes to your practice or service model are you planning for 2023 or 2024?

Wernette: One of the best parts about Rehmann is our more than 950 business professionals, all working to provide solutions to our clients. It’s our job at Rehmann Financial to educate those professionals about our services so they can incorporate us into their client conversations when appropriate. Having warm leads to well-established organizations is a primary source of our growth. We are also beginning to expand our retirement plan services to governmental organizations. This is an area where we see a lot of growth in future years. We rolled out our own MEP in 2016 and converted it to a PEP in 2021, another high-growth segment for us. As we explore other areas like financial wellness and retirement income solutions, we predict continued opportunities to both grow our retirement plan practice and pursue wealth management opportunities for participants looking for additional support.

In 2023 and 2024, our practice will continue to explore all opportunities for plan sponsors due to the SECURE 2.0 ACt. With the increase of retirees on the horizon, we expect business succession planning to take an increased role within our service capabilities and open more doors in areas such as ESOPs and nonqualified plans as key employee retention tools.


PLANADVISER: What challenges do you think the retirement plan industry faces and what role do you have in addressing and confronting those challenges?

Wernette: Implementation of SECURE 2.0 is going to be more easily said than done. Our role on the consultant side is to fully understand how each recordkeeper plans to integrate changes to their platforms and help convey that information to plan sponsors. Many of the provisions are optional, and some present some major obstacles if implemented. As opportunities expand for increasing plan coverage, we will strive to contribute through our PEP and by growing opportunities for all employers to provide coverage to their employees.

Another area of challenge is the increasing number of retirees. This includes our profession as well. Without a solid mentorship and training program, all of the expertise gained by seasoned advisers will be lost. Our robust mentoring and training helps to ensure consistently great service. For retirees in plans, the challenge is how to make sure they are just as successful in retirement as they were in their working careers. This includes looking at in-plan annuity solutions, managed accounts, financial wellness, participant advice and identifying what is going to best meet their needs.


PLANADVISER: Please tell us about an important experience you have had as either a mentor or mentee.

Wernette: Being a mentee is not reserved for entry-level employees, nor is it something that only lasts for a year or two, just like being a mentor is not restricted to senior employees. It spans over an entire career, in which we are constantly serving in one or both capacities. In the thick of the pandemic, August 2020, we were very fortunate to bring on a senior member to our team. It was a little strange as, during his onboarding, all of his equipment was getting mailed to his house. I served as a mentor to him, helping him to acclimate to our firm and understand our culture. We had so many video meetings during those first few weeks. While it may seem like that wouldn’t have been as ideal as in-person meetings, I was actually able to introduce him to so many individuals across our multi-state footprint, thanks to technology. While this informal mentorship was transpiring, we overlayed our formal mentorship program to him. For many organizations, it is difficult to bring in an experienced hire and have them integrate with the team and process, but our mix of formal and informal mentorship worked wonders. At that same time, he was also acting as a mentor to myself, sharing his ideas and philosophies on things. We grew together. It is such a powerful experience to let go of the idea that mentorship can only go to those less experienced.


PLANADVISER: What advice can you give to your industry peers about developing successful experiences for both mentors and mentees?

Wernette: A mentorship program can’t be an afterthought; rather, it must be an investment you make in your employees and in yourself. A well-established program will pay dividends for a lifetime, helping your practice not just survive, but thrive. We have high employee retention rates and have been able to build a stronger team of associates. I know our mentorship program has made a big difference in attaining and maintaining these results. There is not a one-size-fits-all solution, so keep an open mind and dedicate the resources to develop a robust mentorship program. It will increase value of your firm and benefit the future of everyone in your organization.

2023 RPAY – CSi Advisory Services, a division of HUB International


Business at a Glance as of 12/31/22

  • Plan assets under advisement: $945 million
  • Median plan size (in assets): $2 million
  • Plans under administration: 256
  • Total participants served: 25,116

PLANADVISER: Tell us about your practice and how you got into advising retirement plans

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Kristi Baker: Established in 1971, our practice has been operating within the retirement plan industry for more than five decades. Even in the days before 401(k) plans, Roth options and auto features, our firm recognized the opportunities that existed in the market and believed that retirement savings vehicles had the potential to positively transform the financial security of American employers, workers and their families. Although our rich history gives us a unique perspective of the progress that’s been made, our experience has proven there’s still much to be done to increase access to benefits and close the coverage gap. This motivates our mission and is why we work with employers of all sizes, charge a flat fee and remain independent and impartial, so employers can rely on us as an advocate for their plan and a resource for their employees. CSi goes the extra mile to reach overlooked businesses. Our core market is small to mid-sized plans, and of the clients we onboarded in 2022, 60% were start-up.

In 1979, my dad and his two business partners purchased CSi. I first got interested in the business when I was in high school. During the summers, I worked in the office helping to answer phones and file paperwork. When I began the college search in the late 1980s, my exposure to the industry led me to seek a degree in finance. In 1991, I graduated with a degree in business finance and started a career in Chicago with AJ Gallagher in the property casualty commercial sales team. After a few years in insurance, I realized I wanted to find a role I was more passionate about. A new career opportunity came along, and I was ready to jump on it. When I called my dad, excited to tell him about the next phase of my career, he asked me to come back home for a visit with his business and an interview with MassMutual before I made my official decision. As it turns out, my dad’s foresight was right, and in September 1993, I joined CSi as an adviser in wealth and retirement plans and became securities-licensed with MassMutual/MML. Back in those days, the industry was still in its infancy. With very few advisers, few products and no conferences/training programs, it was very much ‘learn as you go’. Regardless, I fell in love with helping people achieve their financial goals and assisting companies with providing meaningful retirement benefits to their employees. So much has changed and evolved during the past 30 years I’ve been in this industry, but the one thing that has remained the same is my passion for serving others on their retirement journey.


PLANADVISER: How is your team/process/structure unique? How has it evolved? Where will you be in five years?

Baker: Our multi-functional team structure is unique and allows us to operate a full-service firm under one roof, bridging the gap between all areas of retirement services. Rather than relying on a single adviser, every plan we serve is assigned a lead consultant, employee education and advice specialist, relationship manager and compliance specialist. Our firm also has an in-house TPA team that provides compliance and administration oversight. Collaboration between these teams helps us solve problems and address the specific needs of plan sponsors and employees. The diversity of plans that make up our client base is another unique aspect of our practice. CSi’s mission has always followed a “people-first” approach and has never been about the numbers or AUMs. From a small business with two employees to a corporate 401(k) plan with more than 4,000 employees, every number has a name, every name is a person and every person matters to CSi.

The most notable way our structure has evolved over the last few years is the restructuring and expansion of our Employee Education & Advice Team. To prove our commitment to meeting participants wherever they are on their journey to retirement, we’ve hired more advisers and support staff to develop a proprietary financial wellness program, deliver personalized education and expert financial advice to workers of all backgrounds, ages and income levels. While automation and technology has solved for a lot, it doesn’t replace the human and the relationship. That is CSi’s differentiator.

Being in the Midwest, many of our client companies have employees working physical labor and/or non-traditional hours (farms, factories, construction, mining, etc.). Our dedicated team goes the extra mile to connect with these underserved and hard-to-reach employee groups. CSi advisors have put on hard hats to visit participants working on construction sites, hair nets to meet with factory workers and have even traveled into underground coal mines to meet with miners. To CSi, the time commitment, busy schedules and constant travel required to serve them is worth it, as it moves the needle toward closing the coverage gap and securing a successful retirement for all Americans. In five years, we expect the number of employee engagement-focused team members to continue to increase based off the interest and feedback we receive from plan sponsors who are looking for holistic financial wellness benefits for their employees.


PLANADVISER: As a retirement plan adviser, what do you take the most pride in?

Baker: Being an adviser in this industry is rewarding because you have the opportunity to make a tangible difference in the financial lives of your clients. For many, the employer-sponsored retirement plan is their only long-term saving vehicle. Being in the business for as long as I have, I’ve had the privilege of watching employees who expressed so much doubt about their ability to retire take the necessary steps to ultimately achieve a successful retirement along with their other financial goals. To see them finally succeed in that journey is something I take great pride in. Additionally, meeting the hardworking individuals participating in the plan is a wonderful reminder that behind all the numbers and AUMs are real people, with real families and real dreams. Whether it’s assisting a small business owner with a startup plan, easing administrative burdens of an HR professional or helping a participant create a budget or pay down debt- there is always something to take pride in as a retirement plan adviser.


PLANADVISER: How do you grow your business? What changes to your practice or service model are you planning for 2023 or 2024?

Baker: One of our core values is relationships, and the way we grow our business reflects that focus. We operate mainly on a referral basis and have a large network of benefit producers, CPAs and attorneys who introduce us to their clients. Outside of these centers of influence, we also receive referrals from current or past HR professionals/plan contacts who are making a career change. This may be our favorite type of referral, as it’s rewarding to know a contact was satisfied by our services and enjoyed their experience enough that they think of us when an opportunity arises at their new organization. At every RFP/proposal/pitch, we make an effort to clearly communicate our offerings and keep the lines of communication open, even if we are not hired by the company at that time. There have been many instances of organizations contacting us years after our initial pitch that are now in a better position to utilize our services and come directly to us. This is a testament to our efforts to strengthen our name recognition through marketing campaigns, drip emails, community service and speaking engagements.

In 2022, we partnered with HUB International to expand our service offerings, resources and industry network. Through this partnership, we can leverage the scope and technology of a much larger organization while continuing to serve plan sponsors with personalized care, flexibility and advocacy. Our plans for 2023 and 2024 are to build upon these recent business developments and make use of the resources and opportunities that have resulted from this new partnership.


PLANADVISER: What challenges do you think the retirement plan industry faces and what role do you have in addressing and confronting those challenges?

Baker: The retirement plan industry has become increasingly more complex. Whether it be regulatory changes, share classes/CITs, remote and virtual work, lawsuits, fee disclosures, legislation mandates, compliance issues, fiduciary responsibilities, etc., there are a lot of places challenges can arise from in this industry. The role CSi has in addressing and confronting these challenges is to act as a middle man and keep it simple. We take a complex subject and aim to make it easier for employers to understand, operate their plans and help their employees save successfully. The industry needs to continue to evolve by providing new solutions with less complexity and technicalities that are manageable for the average end user.

Another challenge the industry faces is a lack of advisers, especially young and diverse advisers. From our experience, there is significantly more work available than there are advisers. This is one of many contributors to the coverage gap, but unlike many external contributors, this is a challenge our industry can address and improve internally. As an industry, we need to create a better onboarding experience for new advisers and a path for professionals to grow their careers. Our practice and many others are concentrating on this, but there is much to be done to generate interest among young financial professionals as an industry-wide initiative. To service sponsors and participants to the level required to close the coverage gap, it is going to take a lot more specialist retirement advisers, especially those willing to connect with underserved industries, locations or populations.


PLANADVISER: Why do you feel that retirement plan advisers should get involved in the expansion of the DC retirement plan system to cover more types of employers and employees?

Baker: Simply put, because it is the right thing to do. Besides the fact that at any given time, only about half of private sector workers are covered by an employer-sponsored retirement plan, through research and behavioral finance studies we know that even those who are covered can do a poor job of saving due to lack of knowledge, time, processes, etc. As retirement plan advisers, it is our duty to serve as an advocate, bring solutions that improve accessibility and knowledge, and use our voice to help everyday Americans and employers see the value in the retirement plan system.

Advisers need to work together with industry partners (recordkeepers, investment firms), alongside Congress and with organizations like SHRM to promote and advance retirement plan access for all,- including small businesses, low-income workers and members of minority groups. If the desire to close the coverage the gap does not begin with us, it makes it much harder to get those outside of our industry involved enough to make a meaningful difference in the expansion of the DC retirement plan system.


PLANADVISER: What are the biggest challenges preventing the broader delivery of tax-advantaged retirement savings opportunities in the workplace, and how might these be solved?

Baker: As discussed above, complexity and, therefore, a lack of understanding is a major challenge in the retirement plan space. I think many employers recognize the value of offering retirement savings opportunities in their workplace, especially with the recent increased tax credits and other incentives. However, I feel many employers are still at a loss for how to do so or where to even begin. I’m hopeful that the Starter-K Act and other legislation will ease the burden of implementation, but I believe it is still a big hill to climb—especially for employers with fewer than 25 employees.

Another challenge preventing the broad delivery of retirement opportunities in the workplace is the profitability of small plans. Unfortunately, many advisers elect not to work with small businesses because the revenue isn’t attractive. This defeats the original purpose of tax-advantaged retirement plans as a trustworthy and reasonable saving vehicle that is accessible for all Americans. This mindset of revenue before individual impact needs to shift inside our industry before we can make real strides in solving the coverage gap externally.

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