2023 RPAY – CSi Advisory Services, a division of HUB International


Business at a Glance as of 12/31/22

  • Plan assets under advisement: $945 million
  • Median plan size (in assets): $2 million
  • Plans under administration: 256
  • Total participants served: 25,116

PLANADVISER: Tell us about your practice and how you got into advising retirement plans

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Kristi Baker: Established in 1971, our practice has been operating within the retirement plan industry for more than five decades. Even in the days before 401(k) plans, Roth options and auto features, our firm recognized the opportunities that existed in the market and believed that retirement savings vehicles had the potential to positively transform the financial security of American employers, workers and their families. Although our rich history gives us a unique perspective of the progress that’s been made, our experience has proven there’s still much to be done to increase access to benefits and close the coverage gap. This motivates our mission and is why we work with employers of all sizes, charge a flat fee and remain independent and impartial, so employers can rely on us as an advocate for their plan and a resource for their employees. CSi goes the extra mile to reach overlooked businesses. Our core market is small to mid-sized plans, and of the clients we onboarded in 2022, 60% were start-up.

In 1979, my dad and his two business partners purchased CSi. I first got interested in the business when I was in high school. During the summers, I worked in the office helping to answer phones and file paperwork. When I began the college search in the late 1980s, my exposure to the industry led me to seek a degree in finance. In 1991, I graduated with a degree in business finance and started a career in Chicago with AJ Gallagher in the property casualty commercial sales team. After a few years in insurance, I realized I wanted to find a role I was more passionate about. A new career opportunity came along, and I was ready to jump on it. When I called my dad, excited to tell him about the next phase of my career, he asked me to come back home for a visit with his business and an interview with MassMutual before I made my official decision. As it turns out, my dad’s foresight was right, and in September 1993, I joined CSi as an adviser in wealth and retirement plans and became securities-licensed with MassMutual/MML. Back in those days, the industry was still in its infancy. With very few advisers, few products and no conferences/training programs, it was very much ‘learn as you go’. Regardless, I fell in love with helping people achieve their financial goals and assisting companies with providing meaningful retirement benefits to their employees. So much has changed and evolved during the past 30 years I’ve been in this industry, but the one thing that has remained the same is my passion for serving others on their retirement journey.


PLANADVISER: How is your team/process/structure unique? How has it evolved? Where will you be in five years?

Baker: Our multi-functional team structure is unique and allows us to operate a full-service firm under one roof, bridging the gap between all areas of retirement services. Rather than relying on a single adviser, every plan we serve is assigned a lead consultant, employee education and advice specialist, relationship manager and compliance specialist. Our firm also has an in-house TPA team that provides compliance and administration oversight. Collaboration between these teams helps us solve problems and address the specific needs of plan sponsors and employees. The diversity of plans that make up our client base is another unique aspect of our practice. CSi’s mission has always followed a “people-first” approach and has never been about the numbers or AUMs. From a small business with two employees to a corporate 401(k) plan with more than 4,000 employees, every number has a name, every name is a person and every person matters to CSi.

The most notable way our structure has evolved over the last few years is the restructuring and expansion of our Employee Education & Advice Team. To prove our commitment to meeting participants wherever they are on their journey to retirement, we’ve hired more advisers and support staff to develop a proprietary financial wellness program, deliver personalized education and expert financial advice to workers of all backgrounds, ages and income levels. While automation and technology has solved for a lot, it doesn’t replace the human and the relationship. That is CSi’s differentiator.

Being in the Midwest, many of our client companies have employees working physical labor and/or non-traditional hours (farms, factories, construction, mining, etc.). Our dedicated team goes the extra mile to connect with these underserved and hard-to-reach employee groups. CSi advisors have put on hard hats to visit participants working on construction sites, hair nets to meet with factory workers and have even traveled into underground coal mines to meet with miners. To CSi, the time commitment, busy schedules and constant travel required to serve them is worth it, as it moves the needle toward closing the coverage gap and securing a successful retirement for all Americans. In five years, we expect the number of employee engagement-focused team members to continue to increase based off the interest and feedback we receive from plan sponsors who are looking for holistic financial wellness benefits for their employees.


PLANADVISER: As a retirement plan adviser, what do you take the most pride in?

Baker: Being an adviser in this industry is rewarding because you have the opportunity to make a tangible difference in the financial lives of your clients. For many, the employer-sponsored retirement plan is their only long-term saving vehicle. Being in the business for as long as I have, I’ve had the privilege of watching employees who expressed so much doubt about their ability to retire take the necessary steps to ultimately achieve a successful retirement along with their other financial goals. To see them finally succeed in that journey is something I take great pride in. Additionally, meeting the hardworking individuals participating in the plan is a wonderful reminder that behind all the numbers and AUMs are real people, with real families and real dreams. Whether it’s assisting a small business owner with a startup plan, easing administrative burdens of an HR professional or helping a participant create a budget or pay down debt- there is always something to take pride in as a retirement plan adviser.


PLANADVISER: How do you grow your business? What changes to your practice or service model are you planning for 2023 or 2024?

Baker: One of our core values is relationships, and the way we grow our business reflects that focus. We operate mainly on a referral basis and have a large network of benefit producers, CPAs and attorneys who introduce us to their clients. Outside of these centers of influence, we also receive referrals from current or past HR professionals/plan contacts who are making a career change. This may be our favorite type of referral, as it’s rewarding to know a contact was satisfied by our services and enjoyed their experience enough that they think of us when an opportunity arises at their new organization. At every RFP/proposal/pitch, we make an effort to clearly communicate our offerings and keep the lines of communication open, even if we are not hired by the company at that time. There have been many instances of organizations contacting us years after our initial pitch that are now in a better position to utilize our services and come directly to us. This is a testament to our efforts to strengthen our name recognition through marketing campaigns, drip emails, community service and speaking engagements.

In 2022, we partnered with HUB International to expand our service offerings, resources and industry network. Through this partnership, we can leverage the scope and technology of a much larger organization while continuing to serve plan sponsors with personalized care, flexibility and advocacy. Our plans for 2023 and 2024 are to build upon these recent business developments and make use of the resources and opportunities that have resulted from this new partnership.


PLANADVISER: What challenges do you think the retirement plan industry faces and what role do you have in addressing and confronting those challenges?

Baker: The retirement plan industry has become increasingly more complex. Whether it be regulatory changes, share classes/CITs, remote and virtual work, lawsuits, fee disclosures, legislation mandates, compliance issues, fiduciary responsibilities, etc., there are a lot of places challenges can arise from in this industry. The role CSi has in addressing and confronting these challenges is to act as a middle man and keep it simple. We take a complex subject and aim to make it easier for employers to understand, operate their plans and help their employees save successfully. The industry needs to continue to evolve by providing new solutions with less complexity and technicalities that are manageable for the average end user.

Another challenge the industry faces is a lack of advisers, especially young and diverse advisers. From our experience, there is significantly more work available than there are advisers. This is one of many contributors to the coverage gap, but unlike many external contributors, this is a challenge our industry can address and improve internally. As an industry, we need to create a better onboarding experience for new advisers and a path for professionals to grow their careers. Our practice and many others are concentrating on this, but there is much to be done to generate interest among young financial professionals as an industry-wide initiative. To service sponsors and participants to the level required to close the coverage gap, it is going to take a lot more specialist retirement advisers, especially those willing to connect with underserved industries, locations or populations.


PLANADVISER: Why do you feel that retirement plan advisers should get involved in the expansion of the DC retirement plan system to cover more types of employers and employees?

Baker: Simply put, because it is the right thing to do. Besides the fact that at any given time, only about half of private sector workers are covered by an employer-sponsored retirement plan, through research and behavioral finance studies we know that even those who are covered can do a poor job of saving due to lack of knowledge, time, processes, etc. As retirement plan advisers, it is our duty to serve as an advocate, bring solutions that improve accessibility and knowledge, and use our voice to help everyday Americans and employers see the value in the retirement plan system.

Advisers need to work together with industry partners (recordkeepers, investment firms), alongside Congress and with organizations like SHRM to promote and advance retirement plan access for all,- including small businesses, low-income workers and members of minority groups. If the desire to close the coverage the gap does not begin with us, it makes it much harder to get those outside of our industry involved enough to make a meaningful difference in the expansion of the DC retirement plan system.


PLANADVISER: What are the biggest challenges preventing the broader delivery of tax-advantaged retirement savings opportunities in the workplace, and how might these be solved?

Baker: As discussed above, complexity and, therefore, a lack of understanding is a major challenge in the retirement plan space. I think many employers recognize the value of offering retirement savings opportunities in their workplace, especially with the recent increased tax credits and other incentives. However, I feel many employers are still at a loss for how to do so or where to even begin. I’m hopeful that the Starter-K Act and other legislation will ease the burden of implementation, but I believe it is still a big hill to climb—especially for employers with fewer than 25 employees.

Another challenge preventing the broad delivery of retirement opportunities in the workplace is the profitability of small plans. Unfortunately, many advisers elect not to work with small businesses because the revenue isn’t attractive. This defeats the original purpose of tax-advantaged retirement plans as a trustworthy and reasonable saving vehicle that is accessible for all Americans. This mindset of revenue before individual impact needs to shift inside our industry before we can make real strides in solving the coverage gap externally.

2023 RPAY – Finspire, LLC


Business at a Glance as of 12/31/22

  • Plan assets under advisement: $1.25 Billion
  • Median plan size (in assets): $11 Million
  • Plans under administration: 59
  • Total participants served: 33,000

PLANADVISER: Tell us about your practice and how you got into advising retirement plans.

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Finspire: Finspire is an independent, corporate retirement plan consulting firm focused on providing an exceptional level of service to retirement plan sponsors and participants. We strive to maintain a progressive business model and build a diverse team of like-minded, trusted professionals dedicated to enhancing the client experience.

The founder of Finspire, Chuck Williams, first started in the financial services industry as a personal wealth adviser, whereby he assisted individuals and families by managing their personal assets. After getting his Certified Financial Planning (CFP) designation, Chuck felt he could positively impact more individuals by meeting them at their offices and helping them understand and maximize the impact of their greatest tool for achieving their long-term financial goals: their company-sponsored retirement plan.

After working with a commercial bank to help develop a retirement plan consulting business for bank clients, Chuck joined an upstart independent retirement plan consulting firm in 2008 that grew dramatically over his 10-year tenure there. In 2018, Chuck, along with co-founders Chris Karam and James Jaramillo, founded Finspire with the objective of restoring the high level of retirement plan expertise and service quality that had been eroding due to mass consolidation throughout the industry.


PLANADVISER: How is your team/process/structure unique? How has it evolved? Where will you be in five years?

Finspire: Our culture is at the heart of our organization. We make sure all our efforts reflect our commitment to:

  • Our clients—providing innovative solutions combined with an exceptional level of service;
  • Our employees—creating an environment in which inclusion, diversity and equity are valued and respected; and
  • Our community—recognizing the impact we can have goes far beyond the services we provide our clients.

Each member of the team came into the retirement plan industry through different paths, but the commonality of all is a passion to serve and empower others to set and reach their financial goals to have more fulfilling lives.

We have evolved from the traditional retirement plan advisory model in which a lead adviser is at the top of the service pyramid, is the primary focal point for the client and generally is the only one who receives a percentage of revenue from the practice. Our service model is truly team-based, because all members of our group are intimately involved in enhancing the experience for our clients and benefit financially and professionally from the success of the firm. This model resembles those you would find in high-performing RIAs, in which multiple disciplines and specialties within a firm are regularly tapped to serve clients and help achieve their objectives.

This multidisciplinary approach is well-suited to serve private equity firms by providing them with retirement plan merger-and-acquisition guidance during their pre-acquisition due diligence phase. We have produced 23 due diligence reports over the last two calendar years [2021 and 2022].

In five years, we intend to be a multi-faceted retirement and corporate consulting firm assisting clients with effectively managing their overall employee wealth benefits offerings and helping achieve other financial objectives of the organization.


PLANADVISER: As a retirement plan adviser, what do you take the most pride in?

Finspire: As a firm, we take the most pride in the feedback we receive from clients, peers and retirement plan industry partners. Clients will often thank us for going that “extra mile” to provide assistance that goes beyond what is outlined in our service agreement and beyond what they may have expected. We also take great pride in the reaction we get when we tell our story to peers or retirement industry partners, as they appreciate our passion, integrity and commitment to improve the lives of those we interact with in our business.

We take a proactive and prescriptive approach to our client engagements. While our clients want to be informed about past performance, the forward-looking nature of our plan design benchmarking, retirement income selection process and collaborative annual service provider reviews collectively make us an indispensable financial partner.

We also take great pride in the growth of our employees. We challenge everyone on the team to stretch beyond what they may have felt comfortable taking on in the past and to challenge the ‘status quo’ of how retirement plan advisory practices have been built in the past. The result has been some truly amazing individual accomplishments by each team member, which has benefited them individually and, in turn, powered the success of our firm.


PLANADVISER: How do you grow your business? What changes to your practice or service model are you planning for 2023 or 2024?

Finspire: We have grown our business primarily organically since our inception in December 2018 through referrals from clients, recordkeepers and various centers of influence in our industry. Until recently, the referrals were primarily for 401(k) plan advisory services. In the past couple of years, we’ve broadened our offering to provide advisory services for other corporate retirement plan types (defined benefit, NQ plans, 403(b), etc.) as well as providing pre-acquisition corporate retirement plan due diligence reporting for companies involved in M&A, as well as investment consulting for endowments and foundations.

In 2019, we successfully integrated a wealth advisory practice to further diversify our revenue beyond corporate services and into personal services, including financial planning, tax analysis and both asset and liability management. These have broadened our scope and allowed us to add more value for our clients.

We have been educating clients over the last two years about emerging developments in retirement income solutions within corporate retirement plans. This will continue over the next several years as we firmly believe the appropriate retirement income solutions can have widespread benefit for employees and plan sponsors.

Our multidisciplinary advisory and consulting platform is designed to scale further organic growth and is well-situated to support future inorganic growth by adding new advisers and consultants. We will be adding professionals to the team in 2023 and 2024 and cross-training them in the areas of retirement plan advisory and personal wealth management.


PLANADVISER: What challenges do you think the retirement plan industry faces and what role do you have in addressing and confronting those challenges?

Finspire: We believe one of the greatest challenges facing the retirement industry is attracting younger people and those who, historically, have been underrepresented in our field. On the positive side, we have seen recent cracks in the barriers to entry as the result of a variety of factors, including efforts by financial organizations, educational institutions and philanthropic organizations to raise awareness and remove impediments.

Our role at Finspire is initially to lead by example by looking for team members that match our vision. The result has been a team today that is still relatively small but well-diversified in terms of age, gender, ethnicity and work experience. We believe all team members believe they are valued and celebrated for their unique skills and personal attributes. While we cannot provide the large financial support larger organizations can (and often do!), we can still be very impactful by increasing our awareness and finding opportunities to make an impact.


PLANADVISER: Please tell us about an important experience you have had as either a mentor or mentee.

Finspire: Below are a few examples of our mentorship and education efforts:

  • Our CEO, Chuck Williams, has been teaching the “Retirement Planning and Employee Benefits” course at Northwestern University’s School of Continuing Studies since 2005. He typically teaches two 10-week courses per year for students studying to become Certified Financial Planners. Chuck sponsors a student to take his course each semester. The sponsored students have generally been from underrepresented groups who are looking to enter or advance in the financial services industry. A recent recipient of this sponsorship successfully completed the course and earned a significant position with a large financial services company. Chuck also volunteers with Advisers Giving Back, a not-for-profit organization providing financial guidance for underserved individuals and families in Chicago.
  • Our CIO, Chris Karam, has mentored two investment professionals in his capacity as a supervisor and as an outsourced investment consultant. The mentorship opportunities included guiding an intern and a professional engineer through the pension and investment field, helping determine their respective career paths and supporting their work/life balance during their pursuit of becoming CFA charter holders. Both achieved their coveted CFA charter holder status. One is in a hybrid investment sales/service role with an emphasis in retirement income, and the other is a senior investment analyst with a large industry aggregator.
  • Calla Gorman is a founding member of the formerly named Women in Pensions Network’s Chicago Chapter, which actively engages institutions to promote the advancement of women in the corporate retirement plan industry. Calla was also named to the DCIIA’s List of DEI Rising Stars for 2021 and 2022.

PLANADVISER: What advice can you give to your industry peers about developing successful experiences for both mentors and mentees?

Finspire: We ask all employees to strive to be both a mentor and a mentee to someone either within Finspire or outside the organization. We believe we all have something to learn from someone else, and we all have knowledge and skills that we can be of benefit to others. I’d recommend our industry peers look to do the same, as being both a mentor and a mentee can ensure that you’re growing professionally and are paving the way for the next group of industry leaders.

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