2023 RPAY – Jeffrey Sharp, HUB Investment Advisors, Inc.


Business at a Glance as of 12/31/22

  • Plan assets under advisement: $720 million
  • Median plan size (in assets): $7 million
  • Plans under administration: 13
  • Total participants served: 6000

PLANADVISER: Tell us about your practice and how you got into advising retirement plans.

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Sharp: Our practice involves several team members working on behalf of our plan sponsor clients to bring best-in-class retirement plan offerings to plan participants. I got into the business in the late 1980s doing participant education on this new thing called a “Cash or Deferral Arrangement,” now known as a 401(k). In those days, in most plans, participants had no voice in how their money was invested. Rather, we’d place Guaranteed Investment Contracts (GICs) to lock in a declared interest rate. My job was to educate participants on the benefits of saving for retirement using an overhead projector with flimsy clear plastic sheets. My, how times have changed!


PLANADVISER: As a retirement plan adviser, what do you take the most pride in?

Sharp: No doubt, the growth and breadth of team members, along with the tools/resources we use to provide value to our clients. We deliver independent advice at a very high level.


PLANADVISER: How do you grow your business? What changes to your practice or service model are you planning for 2023 or 2024?

Sharp: We believe the best way to grow the business is to continue to demonstrate to existing clients our commitment to service their plans and participants well. We will leverage those positive experiences by creating “word of mouth” referrals to our firm. We will continue to add team members as our block of business grows. Attending various industry meetings to keep on the leading edge of new ideas/planning is a cornerstone of what we do.


PLANADVISER: What challenges do you think the retirement plan industry faces and what role do you have in addressing and confronting those challenges?

Sharp: A challenge will be helping individual participants understand their various unique options with plan balances as they approach and enter retirement. With many regulatory requirements imposed on advisers, it will be a challenge to provide specific advice yet satisfy the DOL requirements associated with the DOL Prohibited Transaction Exemption 2020-02.


PLANADVISER: Please tell us about an important experience you have had as either a mentor or mentee.

Sharp: As we began to hire additional advisers, a key ingredient of our success has been to spend time with new advisers (mentees) to educate, role-play an upcoming meeting, involve that person in the meeting and then discuss what worked and what didn’t work after the meeting occurs. Only in that way can a new adviser grow more quickly and shorten the learning curve. Also critical is giving that person time to critique the mentor in terms of what the mentee liked and didn’t like during the actual meeting.


PLANADVISER: What advice can you give to your industry peers about developing successful experiences for both mentors and mentees?

Sharp: Make time and invest in your team! Mentors are very busy in their practice, yet it is critical that they consistently and regularly schedule quality time to invest in new team members. In so doing, mentees quickly see that the mentor really cares about them individually, as well as their unique career path growth. The investment of time by the mentor will pay handsome dividends for all parties involved. Stress and acknowledge the importance of a good work/family balance and provide the flexibility when required to help the individual be present with their family.

2023 RPAY – Kim Cochrane, HUB International


Business at a Glance as of 12/31/22

  • Plan assets under advisement: $1.1 billion
  • Median plan size (in assets): $6 million
  • Plans under administration: 198
  • Total participants served: 17,000

PLANADVISER: How is your team/process/structure unique? How has it evolved? Where will you be in five years?

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Cochrane: Locally we are a small team of seven employees, with five advisers, one support staff and one educational consultant. We are also part of a Mid-Atlantic team of top advisers at HUB, as well as part of a global organization. Each adviser has a book of business, but Kim Cochrane also serves in an organizational management position in which she is responsible for relationship management and business improvements. We are, collectively, a diverse practice, and we collaborate with other members in the Mid-Atlantic team to embrace each of our specialties to serve our clients. We have grown from a single adviser who was brought into the retirement business as an offshoot of a large group benefits practice into a practice that focuses on clients of all size, but with a hyper-focus on nonprofit organizations. In five years, exponential growth is expected. HUB International has multiple lines of business, with more than 2 million clients as of December 2021. This opportunity and encouragement for cross-selling is a focus of the company.


PLANADVISER: As a retirement plan adviser, what do you take the most pride in?

Cochrane: The greatest pride comes from working with employees and being able to provide solutions tailored to where they are, not where we think they should be. When you can have a conversation and the employee relays how great it was that they were able to talk to you and that you truly helped them, that is a gift. We work with many employees who may be lower-paid but who need to have a plan to accumulate wealth for their future. These employees often tell us they want to build generational wealth in their family that has never existed before. We want to be the driving force behind helping them reach their goals.


PLANADVISER: How do you grow your business? What changes to your practice or service model are you planning for 2023 or 2024?

Cochrane: We participate in many local associations and networking groups, where we are able to form strong alliances. In addition, as part of a business insurance and group benefits practice, we are often referred into existing clients. This is especially true when it comes to start-up nonprofit groups. Kim Cochrane and Eduardo Gimenez are adjunct professors for The Plan Sponsor University and hold sessions twice a year for plan sponsors. For 2023 and 2024, we expect to participate more by sitting on association boards and by being more active in our community.


PLANADVISER: What challenges do you think the retirement plan industry faces and what role do you have in addressing and confronting those challenges?

Cochrane: The retirement plan industry gets more and more complex every year with the regulatory changes. In addition, the consolidation of recordkeepers is concerning. Recordkeepers used to have very qualified employees who could answer clients’ complex questions, but we have found that those employees are no longer employed there. The consultation and educational side of the business has now shifted to the advisers. With fee compression hitting all sides of the business, we have to rely on tech and seamless solutions to be able to provide a higher level of service for the same or lower fees.

We implemented many of the tech options made available during the COVID-19 pandemic, including one-on one sessions with employees and plan sponsors using Teams or Zoom that could be arranged via a calendar link. This frees up our time with scheduling issues and allows us to reach not only the employee, but also their family, since many employees are still working from home.

Utilizing managed accounts, when appropriate, and 3(38) lineups has streamlined our workload so we can grow without a loss to service.


PLANADVISER: Why do you feel that retirement plan advisers should get involved in the expansion of the DC retirement plan system to cover more types of employers and employees?

Cochrane: There is a need for all employees and employers to have access to a retirement plan that is easy to administer and competitively priced. As for the breadth of the problem, those without access to a workplace plan stand at 46% of private sector workers, or 57.3 million of an estimated total of 124.6 private sector employees, according to Georgetown University’s Center for Retirement Initiatives study. The study also noted that this gap is “inequitably distributed,” with greater gaps found in the small business sector and among workers with lower incomes, younger workers, members of a minority group and women. We have to do better as an industry.

This is also an opportunity for advisers to find a solution to work with these new and smaller employers, since there is huge potential as well. By providing a retirement plan to small employers, advisers can build tremendous revenue.


PLANADVISER: What are the biggest challenges preventing the broader delivery of tax-advantaged retirement savings opportunities in the workplace, and how might these be solved?

Cochrane: Cost is the biggest challenge for employers to start a retirement plan. In addition, they may not have staff equipped to handle the administration or have knowledge of what is needed to maintain the plan. The tax credits will surely help, as well as the relaxation of testing for starter 401(k)s. By providing 3(16) solutions, we can work toward reducing the workload for these clients, as well as offering fiduciary 3(38) services to reduce the investment risk to the clients.

The latest Secure 2.0 Act left out nonprofit employers from the tax credits, as they do not pay federal taxes. This needs to change! We have spoken to our senators and representatives, as well as industry people, like Brian Graff, to address this oversight. My hopes are that a solution is found to be able to offer payroll tax offset to make it equitable.

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